Herjolfsnes no 62

Tunic

Herjolfsnes no.62

Pattern drawing based on Nörlund

This is a child’s garment made of front and back pieces with two gores in the center, but no side gores. An odd note about the front piece is the separate torso piece to which the skirt pieces have been attached. This is probably for reasons of economy since it appears that several portions of this outfit have been pieced together. Enough of both sleeves have survived to determine that they are narrow, and have no gusset where they attach to the rest of the outfit. There is a short cut at the wrist. The edges have been turned, but there is no indication of stitching or overcasting, suggesting that this garment was lined.

The length from shoulder to hem is 49 cm (19.3″), the waist is 47.5 cm (18.7″) in circumference, and the circumference of the bottom edge is 105 cm (41.3″). The armhole is 25 cm (9.8″) around, and the neckhole is is 42 cm (16.5″).

The material is a brown, fine textured fourshaft twilled frieze.


Some Sources:

  • Nörlund, Poul. ”Buried Norsemen at Herjolfsnes: an archaeological and historical study.” Meddelelser om Gronland: Udgivne af Kommissionen for ledelsen af de geologiske og geogrfiske undersogelser i Gronland. Bind LXVII. Kobenhavn: C.A. Reitzel, 1924.

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Some Clothing of the Middle Ages — Tunics — Herjolfsnes 62, by I. Marc Carlson, Copyright 1997 This code is given for the free exchange of information, provided the Author’s Name is included in all future revisions, and no money change hands-

Herjolfsnes no 61

Kyrtles/Cotes/Tunics/Gowns

Herjolfsnes no.61


Pattern drawing based on a photograph in Nörlund
. The shaded side gore is a guess on my part.

This is a child’s garment made of front and back pieces with a center gore and side gores. There may have been sleeves at one time, but there is no sign of them. The bottom edge is finished with sewn on with long darning stitches passing backwards and forwards.

The neck is v-shaped. The back is long and almost has a train. The length from shoulder to hem is 51 cm (20″), the waist is 62 cm (24.4″) in circumference, and the circumference of the bottom edge is 157 cm (61.8″). The armhole is 26 cm (10.2″) around, and the neckhole is is 42 cm (16.5″).

The material is a brown, fine textured four-shaft twill (i.e. 2/2 twill) frieze.

Maggie Forest made a separate examination of the materials of H33, H38, H39, H43, H45, H61, H65 and had the following to say:

The fabric is invariably 2/2 twill. The threads are less than a mm thick, the fabric wasn’t fulled. The result is a slightly open weave, which would have held warmth like a modern knitted sweater. The gap between each thread would be about 1/3-1/2 mm – noticeable. The warp is spun with kemp hairs included for strength, the weft is just the soft under coat, and so the fabrics have a distinctive almost tweed-like appearance. The open weave and the twill weave would have made these fabrics drape like dreams. Despite the fact that they weren’t terribly tight-fitted (although I have a thought on that too) they would have looked it, because the fabric would have clung quite closely.

The seams are just amazingly fine. They’re done from the same thread as the fabric is woven from, and stitches are frequently only about 1mm long. There are places where Nörlund states that there is no hem, only a fold-over, but in fact there is a seam there, it’s just so fine you need to look under the microscope. Leaning back, you can just see a shadow line from the seams, but the stitches are minute.

[The Greenlanders] used a stitch now known as priksom for a top stitch.  It is a running stitch, but it goes through the fabric diagonally and ends up looking totally like a modern machine seam, with each stitch butting close to the next..

The tablet woven edge that is extant in the London material also appears in the Greenland material. A couple of the hoods have a quite wide edge, about 1.5 cm wide, done in this way, which gives a really distinctive looking edge with wide stitches on the back. Very tidy.

[Forest agrees with Robin Netherton’s assertion that the Nörlund’s pattern diagrams are flawed.]  They really look nothing like it. This may be because he drew the diagrams before the first conservation, but for example, there really aren’t those curves in the 39 gown.

The false seams were not used to add additional fit – they are even all the way through the garment.

This page was last modified 11 June 2003


Some Sources:

  • Forest, Maggie. email to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Authentic_SCA 7 Feb 2003.
  • Forest, Maggie. Pers.com.
  • Nörlund, Poul. ”Buried Norsemen at Herjolfsnes: an archaeological and historical study.” Meddelelser om Gronland: Udgivne af Kommissionen for ledelsen af de geologiske og geogrfiske undersogelser i Gronland. Bind LXVII. Kobenhavn: C.A. Reitzel, 1924.

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St Louis’ Shirt

Shirts/Chemises/Smocks

St. Louis’ Shirt


Drawing after Burnham.
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Drawing after Jones.

This garment was first discussed by Dorothy K. Burnham in the early 1970s.   For many decades all other references to this garment were based on this discussion.  Heather Rose Jones performed her own examination of the garment and published her somewhat different findings in 2001.   Both of these interpretations are presented here.   It should be noted that, due to the circumstances of the garment’s display, neither of these examinations was made under ideal circumstances, so many details are simply unavailable.   Burnham herself says that her description was an estimate, since it ”was not possible to make a proper examination.”

It is housed in Notre Dame, Paris. It is a relic attributed to King Louis IX of France (1214-1270), and is said to be the oldest extant undergarment, although neither of the latter assertions is really all that solid (it may not be an undergarment, and the Arras Shirt and the Chelles Shirt, at least, appear to be older).  Attached to the shirt is a small parchment label written in a 15th century hand that reads (translated) ”This is the shirt of my lord Saint Louis who was king of France and it only has one sleeve.”

This garment greatly resembles cote designs discussed elsewhere.. It is assumed that it was meant to be worn under a woolen cote.  The shirt was made of a tightly woven, fine, white linen.  All seams appear to be bound.with very tiny strips of tape.(not bias tape) estimated to be about 2-4 mm wide.  At the collar, there appears to be a very fine facing.that extends past the point of the opening.  The seam binding of the gores also extends for a short distance beyond the point of the inset.  The sleeves and hem appear to have a small rolled hem, also estimated to be about 2-3 mm.    The garment is displayed inside out.  An noted, the garment is missing one sleeve (the left as displayed, or the right if turned right side out). 

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Drawing after Jones

  • Material Length (to the shoulders): 111.4 cm (43.8″)
  • Width (at the top):: 43 cm (16.9″)

In a lengthy discussion on the 75years Yahoogroup in late November 2002, Costume historian and DISTAFF founder Robin Netherton reaffirmed and added to Heather Jones’ observations of the garment.  During this discussion, several photographs came to light, as well as a text from a Guide Book that added to the available information.

Based on the given measurements, and analysis of the photographs, I would suggest the following (estimated) design and measurements:

  • Material Length (to the shoulders): 111.4 cm (43.8″)
  • Width (at the top):: 43 cm (16.9″)
  • Probable loom width:  (24″)
  • Gore height:  (20″)
  • Sleeve length (to shoulder): (17″)
  • Circumference of the hem (assuming a 6″ wide half gore): (120″)

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My interpretation, based on measurements of photographic evidence.

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Some Sources:


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Nockert Type three

Tunic

Type 3


According to the typology given in Nockert, Type 3 Tunics are typified as

”Garments comprising two straight cut main pieces — front and back — joined together with a shoulder seam. Gores inserted in the middle of the main pieces. No side gores. Sleeve design indeterminate. Neck slitscan occur.”

There are two examples of this type of tunic; both inner garments from Herjolfsnes, including one worn by a child, including Herjolfsnes no.7.


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Some Clothing of the Middle Ages – Tunics – Type 3, by I. Marc Carlson, Copyright 1996, 1997. This code is given for the free exchange of information, provided the Author’s Name is included in all future revisions, and no money change hands-

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